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[sdpd] (333) reflection for MgAl2O4 ?
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<p>Dear All:
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I didn't find anyone giving a datum for (333) reflection of MgAl2O4 in the PDF database.
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What's the reason? I don't find any reason for it to be a destructive interference.
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Thanks a lot.
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ike
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å??件人ï¼? Armel Le Bail
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å??é??æ?¶é?´ï¼? 2011-10-20 15:02:01
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主�� Re: [sdpd] Re: DDM program update 1.92
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> > maybe you could also explain why it is normally not possible to
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> > refine positions of H atoms from single crystal data...
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I can't find who said that ? Not me.
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>I also have to apply constraints in some cases, but I hate them and always
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>try to be unconstrained as much as possible.
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Fully agree with you.
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Is it not another way to say that H atoms are a plague and a curse
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(full original
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text below) - due to the need to constrain them in a majority of
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Powder X-ray studies ?
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Best,
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Armel
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>Hi,
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>A recurrent subject... Hydrogen atoms are a kind of curse to
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>conventional X-ray Powder Diffraction SDPD experts.
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>No kidding, a real plague.
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>With or without them, in general you can obtain a good fit.
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>You rarely can see them on a Fourier difference map.
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>If you try to publish without them, invariably a referee requires firmly
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>that you make more efforts.
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>If you publish with them, they will be generally guessed at highly
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>probable positions by many software, eventually optimized, but when
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>inserted into the Rietveld refinement, even at fixed positions, then
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>the positions of the other atoms will move a bit, and their distances
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>with the H atoms will change if compared with your optimization.
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>Then you may have to introduce constraints or restaints or rigid body
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>and so on, then you may want to go back to your optimization,
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>then back to the Rietveld fit, then ....
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>A curse...
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>But a complete hydrogen bonding scheme is so nice.
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>Anyway, you cannot discuss it too much since the H atoms were
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>guessed and more or less fixed, etc.
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>A plague...
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>If one proposes a one-button to press process incorporated into
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>a Rietveld software, this would be quite nice (Lachlan would agree
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>probably with that query to the developers).
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>Best wishes,
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>Armel
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