Re: [sdpd] Re: Seen at Geneva - Call for reviews

[Andy Fitch <fitch...@esrf.fr>]

At 10:24 03 09 02 +0000, you wrote:
> >  > ESPOIR could be easily modified (by me) for indexing that way,
> > -----------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > It sounds like an offer we can't refuse!!!
>
>Well, ESPOIR is open source.
>
>My opinion is that large scale facilities like ESRF
>should be leaders in developing software for the public
>domain.

Of course, there is an active scientific software group at ESRF developing 
data-analysis methods and programs for the ESRF, its users, and outside. 
But we have around 30 public and 10 CRG beam lines which cover a wide range 
of science. Powder diffraction is only a fraction of this. In the ESRF 
powder-diffraction team, with the resources we have, we put our efforts 
into trying to provide the best powder-diffraction data rather than 
developing software.

>  Unfortunately, ESRF is now dependent on Accelrys,
>being a member of the their Pharmaceutical Consortium...

We are not dependent on Accelrys. We have the same access to all the 
public-domain software (e.g. via CCP14) that anyone else has, and we make 
extensive use of public-domain programs. We also have commercial software, 
from Accelrys and other suppliers, including data-analysis programs and 
databases, and these allow us greater flexibility to choose the tool best 
suited to solve the problem. This means that staff and users of ESRF can 
optimise their chances of successfully extracting the required information 
from the data.

>This
>has perverse consequences, IMHO.

Such as?

>So, the ESRF staff will
>not have problems for obtaining access to these new
>indexing software.

ESRF staff and ESRF users have access. Put in your proposal Armel and you 
can use them too.
Or spend your next sabbatical leave here as a visitor.

>Yes, if I can find time (??), I could
>make the open source job and modify ESPOIR.

I'll be looking forward to using it. As we all know, there is no technique 
that works universally; every new approach helps.

         Andy


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