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I fully agree with Armel.
In the presence of too many reflections, how does one
determine the background level in the Intensity extraction (but
even in the Rietveld refinement) steps?

Too complex for 'conventional' powder structural analysis,
Riello's approach (which computes AB-INITIO the correct
physical background - in the absence of fluorescence, etc.)
is the answer?

Norberto

J. Appl. Cryst. (1995). 28, 115-120 [doi:10.1107/S002188989401037X]
X-ray Rietveld Analysis with a Physically Based Background
P. Riello, G. Fagherazzi, D. Clemente and P. Canton
Abstract: On the basis of known equations for calculating X-ray diffraction 
intensities from a given number of unit cells of a crystal phase in 
polycrystalline material, as due to: (i) Bragg reflections; (ii) average 
diffuse scattering caused by thermal plus first-kind disorder; and (iii) 
incoherent scattering, a relationship has been found that ties, in the 
Rietveld analysis, the Bragg scale factor to a scale factor for `disorder' 
as well as incoherent scattering. Instead of fitting the background with a 
polynomial function, it becomes possible to describe the background by 
physically based equations. Air scattering is included in the background 
simulation. By this means, the refinement can be carried out with fewer 
parameters (six fewer than when a fifth-order polynomial is used). The 
DBWS-9006PC computer program written by Sakthivel & Young [(1990), Georgia 
Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA, USA] has been modified to follow this 
approach and it has been used to refine the crystal structures of the cubic 
form of Y2O3 and of a-Al2O3. Peak asymmetry has been described by a 
function based on an exponential approximation. The results from 
refinements using polynomial physically based background function are, in 
terms of final structural parameters and reliability indices, very close to 
each other and in agreement with results reported in the literature. The 
reconstruction and optimization of the background scattering by means of 
physically based equations helps the implementation in the Rietveld code of 
other possible specific diffuse scattering contributions, such as that due 
to an amorphous phase.


At 11.09 11/04/05 +0200, you wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Comments on a recent negative paper about the Le Bail
>method (iterative application of the Rietveld decomposition
>formula with cell restraints, but without structural
>model, in order to extract intensities):
>
>================================================
>"Lattice parameter measurement using Le Bail versus structural
>(Rietveld) refinement: A caution for complex, low symmetry
>systems", V. K. Peterson, Powder Diffraction, 20 (2005) 14-17.
>
>Abstract : The measurement of lattice parameters using the Le Bail
>method  was shown to be inappropriate for a complex, low
>symmetry, structure, even with high resolution synchrotron diffraction
>data. The method failed as a result of ambiguous indexing in
>the absence of constraints on diffraction intensities, that
>arise when a structural model is used, combined with the large
>number of reflections. A caution for the use of the Le Bail
>and other whole-powder pattern decomposition methods is
>presented, particularly for high reflection density data.
>=============================================
>
>Is that true ?
>
>Yes, absolutely and obviously. The door was wide open
>to such a conclusion. I certainly have written something
>similar somewhere.
>
>Other inappropriate conditions already described alsewhere:
>the use of a negative background leading to negative intensities.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Armel
>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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