Re: Computing School Prior to the Osaka 2008 meeting

[Harry Powell <harry@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>]

Hi

I'd go along with this - I think we had agreed on something more advanced
than the Siena school, with the idea of getting "young" active developers
to learn from/interact with the greybeards, as well as from each other. I
would go for a differently structured timetable...

I'd guess that we'd want to start from a list of people we'd want to talk
again from Siena, and go through it pretty carefully to see where it could
be improved. In my opinion, it's very important that we give the speakers
a proper brief so that they are discouraged from just going into how
wonderful their own particular program(s) is/are.

For quick reference, the list of speakers from Siena is at -

	http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/comm/ccom/siena2005/speakers.html

and their slides at

	http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/comm/ccom/siena2005/notes.html

(again, thanks to Lachlan for this).

We didn't have too much trouble getting a healthy quota of students for
Siena, so this might not be an issue.

Web access should be no problem at all - I think Japan is rather more
advanced than many European countries in this aspect!

Students should be encouraged to bring their own laptops (I think we did
this in Siena as well); if you are doing software development and going to
meetings these days it's very likely that you are well equipped!

> That is a nice idea of Lachlans - more like a workshop than a school. We
> did such things for introducing people to CCP4 libraries in the past.
>
> You could get people like Ralf Grosse-Kustleve and Kevin Cowtan to
> describe their C++ crystallographic libraries, and to set exercises (
> that is really important!)
>
> But would you raise enough students? And could the organisation provide
> a suitable class room with  web access? I guess people would bring their
> own laptops but they would want to access the web.
>
> Eleanor
>
>
> Lachlan Cranswick wrote:
> > After Sienna, I remember there being a discussion about a theme of something
> > like a crystallographic hackers school - sort of like
> >
> >    "connecting crystallographic developers"
> >
> > The main idea being for experienced crystallographic software developers
> > to discuss/teach their ideas to less experienced/new software developers.
> > But also the less experienced developers to give short presentations
> > on new ideas as well.  (so it would not be a
> > standard teacher/student type school, though people newly interested
> > in software development would be welcome)
> >
> > Lachlan
> >
> > PS: It looks like I will be out of Email range for the rest of the
> > week due to co-presenting a workshop in Quebec.
> >
> > At 12:18 PM 5/14/2007 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Members of the IUCr Computing Commission
> >>
> >> We are currently working on the organisation of a Computing School to
> >> be held prior to the OSAKA 2008 congress.
> >>
> >> Our Committee member, Prof. Atsushi NAKAGAWA has investigated options
> >> for a suitable site for the school. His suggestion for a suitable
> >> meeting site is the nearby 'Awaji Yumebutai International Conference Center
> >> on the Awaji Island'
> >>
> >> http://www.yumebutai.org/english/index.html
> >>
> >> We hope that the fee for the school participants can be in the order
> >> of 500 Euro (similar to the Siena 2005 school) for 60 students + 20
> >> teachers (free housing + meals - no travel).
> >>
> >> What we now need is a suitable theme for this school.
> >>
> >> Please respond a.s.a.p. with ideas and suggestions.
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >>
> >> Ton Spek
> >>
> >> Chaiirman of the IUCr computing Commission.
> >>
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> >
> >
> > -----------------------
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